zgrm100

HI guys. I just read somewhere about these things. There are basically two kinds. One is an actual cover othat goes over your plate. It looks clear so cops won't give you a ticket but apparently when you go through a red-light that has a camera the picture never comes out!

Also there is some kind of polish over the plate itself. I also heard about this on the radio recently and it caught my attention. Does any1 have any experience with this sort of thing? I am starting to see a lot of these cameras in NYC so I wouldnt mind investing in something like this. Feel free to comment. Thanks

NmexMAX

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Read about index of refraction, then apply what you read and learn to a cover/paint/material.

Or stop passing red lights

Common sense >*

ramberg

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Any type of cover over the plate is illegal in NYC. Are you the guy who ran the red light on 4th ave and 86th st. who almost creamed me?

007max

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I had one on my car for a long time, and i can tell you that cops certainly dont like them (thought it did prevent a lot of photoradar tickets from showing in my mailbox).

JaKillz2

what would be a site that has info on this? I wouldn't buy one, no need, i'm just intrigued. Zgrm, if you get one does that mean you'll never stop at a red light again? I just don't get why your worried about the picture, like Nmex said, you shouldn't be passing through them anyways.

Onemax

Here's and interesting link. Contemplated this myself, being Germans set up camera's everywhere for speeding.

http://phantomplate.com/

MDeezy

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Index of refraction would be a good solution as suggested. But whats the problem with just stopping at red lights?

No matter what you setup, it wont stop the blue lights from turning on if they see you.

n3985

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I have a license cover that essentially "tint" the plate dark grey, no problems yet from NJ or IN cops.

ItsTheShoes

I see the covers quite often down here in Florida. Actually, a few days ago, I seen a red car with a red tinted plate cover on it. Now they're just asking for trouble.

ramberg

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They tint the front windshields down there which to me is worse.

Puppetmaster

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How about one of em James Bond type plates that flips around to show a fake license plate? You could then start robbing 7-11s, robbing banks, doing drive-bys, etc too.

C MAX

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they sell it at speedworld in queens on queens blvd, i hear it works very well.

Frank Fontaine

People use them very liberally in Philly. We don't have any police presence anyway, so the chances of having any trouble is slim to none. I really hate the fact that someone can hit and run, and a victim or witnesses cannot read the plate. My feeling is the registrant of the vehicle should have a suspension revocation for putting something like that on the plate, as there is no legitimate purpose to make a plate unreadable.

I did take pleasure in seeing Canadian customs dismantle a PA driver at the border--what makes a person so dumb as to think they can cross a border with an unreadable plate? They take a pic of every car crossing over.

I'm liberal, but lawbreaking is where I draw the line, not to mention my occupation.

MaximaPolak

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It is illegal to modify a license plate in any way or to use a clear (or other color) covers....At least in NJ it's illegal.

My advice: Stop running red lights and learn not to be a **** on the road.

njmaxseltd

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This thread is useless.

Yellow/Red light = stop.

If you'd like to chance an accident, possibly get hurt or worse off hurt someone else, then run the yellow/red light.

The camara isn't there just to give you a ticket, it's there to protect you.
Perhaps catching the guy who runs into you while he's running the light.
Didn't ever think of it that way did ya....

Personally I think most people obey traffic light signals.
Idiots ignore them.

zgrm100

No Im not the guy from bklyn to answer a previous post.

And guys I have NEVER gotten a ticket for a red light yet, (knock on wood). I dont intend to its just that sometimes when you are in manhatten I noticed they put up these camera and sometimes it seems like you can clearly make the yellow and I would hate to get a ticket for being 1 second in the intersection even though it was yellow when I was passing...

Mr. Blue Sky

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Another thing that I have heard with this photoblocker spray is that since it makes the plate more reflective, you run the risk of making it easier for police to lock on to your car with their laser and radar guns.

nadir_s

the spray thing doesn't work - just leaves a yellow **** haze on it.

† ErV †

those covers don't work. might as well get yourself a piece of computer privacy paper and stick on there.

but then you might ask for a spray to prevent cops from ticketing you for that

Progress

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Maximalover thought of that pre-ban.

Puppetmaster

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But he only wanted it for the petty offenses, like making illegal u-turns, reckless driving, and assaulting cops....

MaxedOut

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LOL... petty offenses..

Tim96I30t

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They have spray on type and plastic covers to prevent photos of your plate. This has been around for a long time in the back of hot rod magazines and other mags.

Majestic Ken

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I agree myself...I know that EVERYONE in here has passed through a yellow light going at a steady pace but kept through it anyway just because, or maybe you were in a hurry...Not saying anyone drives like a maniac but i know its been some days where we all run yellow...and I dont mean just watching it turn yellow 50 feet away and flooring it. thats where u should stop. But this thing is needed like when u dont wanna slam the hell on ur brakes through yellow and it catches you, you know. Now running red lights is a lil overboard, Iduno about that one unless its an extreme emergency

Weimar Ben

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One thing to remember about these stupid red light cameras is that they often change the yellow light to stay on for 2 sec instead of 3 sec like what everyone's used to. They do this to write more tickets. They could care less that a 2 sec. yellow light causes people to slam on their brakes and cause the people behind them to rear end them.

NYPD-Arnold

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People who say "stop running red lights"...shut up. Live in NYC and see how much different these camera lights are than others. Camera lights have a different sequence than standard ones -- they switch from yellow to red almost instantly, causing people who would normally make the light to instead floor their brakes and skid into the intersection (this I see happen all the time).

There's a camera light down the block from me (Woodhaven) and another one near by (Ascan Ave) and often the light goes from green to red without any yellow. It was like fireworks when 7 cars drove past the lights and they were clearly not at fault either. Lucky for me, I was in the turning lane waiting for my cue both times -- and both times were very recent too.

So before you tell people to stop running reds, consider the issues first and figure out what it's like to live in NYC with these stupid camera lights purposely calibrated to a different sequence than other lights.

nadir_s

so then if u know this, why try running yellows ??

basically ... nothing helps. The spray DEFINATELY doesn't help and the cover will probably ge tu a ticket.

Weimar Ben

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http://www.motorists.org/issues/enforce/studies.html

here's some good links that show that red light cameras both increase govt. revenues AND accidents.

murphy54

nice tip...thanks

Frank Fontaine

Too bad they have the opposite effect in DC, VA, MD, and Phila.

Statistics boys and girls, they must be valid and reliable. Don't you wish we could get just $1 for every link that had invalid and unreliable stats? Guess that's why economists are starting at 47k right out of college, only 10k less than Chem E. Dang, 92k avg. salary for a pharmacist and only 6 years for the PharmD. If it had been like that in my day I woulda done it.

Weimar Ben

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linky please

Yeah, all those studies have invalid and unreliable stats. Including the studies done by DOTs that admit that injuries and accidents did not go down.

What does this have to do with anything? As far as pharmacists go, why do we need them? I guess it takes 6 years of schooling to put pills in a bottle, bill the ins. company, learn how to read a doctor's handwriting, and have the computer tell you whether there's a drug interaction or not.

Teufelhunden

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ive ran a red light before, not on purpose, its not like i see red and just kept going... i stop when its red. its that time where your right in front of the light and it turns yellow, but your just crusing and theres a car in front of me sometimes, and most of the time i make it before it turns red. some times i dont. and it takes a second for the other light to go green after it turns red. im not saying im gonna push my car so i can make the yellow light, sometimes you just dont have enough distance to stop your car, its just better to go through it. im not going to run a red light if its already red. there arnt too many cameras set up here, but if they start doing that then i might get it. in jersey its ok to have clear covers.

i30krab

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Please don't make these uninformed blanket statements! Read more and you will find that cities use these cameras for revenue streams and the camera companies also make money on every ticket. It has been proven that the sneaky camera companies play games with the timing of the yellow light and ticket unsuspecting motorists who get trapped in the caution light timing!!
Do your homework or be like my avatar!

Frank Fontaine

Running a red light is black and white. A vehicle does it, or it doesn't. If a driver begins a left turn and enters an intersection while the light is green, he has to yield to oncoming traffic and complete the turn when the oncoming traffic stops, basically the light turns red to stop such oncoming traffic. Wouldn't you know it? Such a car does not get a photo ticket when it completes the left turn. You see, the engineers did something very intelligently--they buried some wiring at the stop line. What is all this bunk about manipulating the length of yellow, AYFKM? I know there isn't any intelligence requirement on this forum, but sometimes the comments need to be reigned in.

Weimar Ben

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We've got the pot calling the kettle black here. Manipulating the yellow light is a VERY common practice for red light cameras. This isn't some conspiracy theory, it's been well-documented.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in558431.shtml

http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersect...tm#Toc89680023

"Changes in the yellow times after red light camera systems are in place and operational will affect the number of photographed violations, increasing the number of violations when yellow times are shortened and reducing the number of violations when yellow times are lengthened. Where changes in the yellow times at intersections with red light camera systems are required as the result of updated speed surveys or other factors, the changes should be clearly described in public information announcements. Providing warning notices for a reasonable amount of time after the change is particularly important for violations recorded at intersections where the yellow interval has been shortened."

http://www.americanchronicle.com/art...?articleID=766

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...bkyhi.asp?pg=1


But it doesn't surprise me that you're so misinformed since you think that using a HELOC to buy your car and pay $154/mo amortized over 30 years is a good idea.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=429331

Frank Fontaine

If you misinterpreted, that's too bad, it could cost you a lot of $$$ in the long run. It's not a good idea to use a HELOC for actually anything at all, because you are using equity in the home to secure credit. I was illustrating how little the payment is when it's amortized over 30 yrs., and for the first 10interest is the minimum payment. Practically speaking, the best way to buy things is on a rewards credit card, and pay that in full every month. If you are young enough, match your material wants with a desire to get ahead at your occupation. If you want more things, try harder and make more money.

If you want to change topics, the reality is that many people in the USA do not earn sufficient incomes to cover their material wants. Enter the finance industry. Also, over the last 10 years, some people have seen their home equity skyrocket. That most likely is not the case where you live as I deal with a vendor in Salt Lake. He does work from home and got great skiing in this past year as I could never get a hold of him when I needed him during the week, but what a lifestyle.

Interest rates are not favorable either on the HELOC--I do have one that I found on bankrate. It's prime minus 1, which at 6.75% currently, makes it such that I have zero demand to borrow. The interest is too high given my mortgage is at 4.5% fixed for 15.

Just use some common sense. Do you really believe that a DOT would knowingly INCREASE accidents as long as they could generate revenue? Those who are in the Philly area, is that the reason Grant, Red Lion, and The Blvd. got the 35mm traffic cams and had a grace period for how many months before they issued violations? We're free to believe what we want, and I think it's sometimes good for us to rhetorically do a reality check and maybe reign in our cynisism towards society! Again, to think that people involved with DOT knowingly cause accidents in an effort to generate revenue, it doesn't make sense. But how many posts have been on this forum where someone got a ticket, yet he/she didn't commit the offense and wanted to know how to get out of it?

K Pazzo 6

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wouldnt that spray on stuff come off if you wash car...or how regularly do you need to keep spraying?

Progress

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Fixed .

Progress

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You're kidding me, right? Pharmacists have equal if not more knowledge on how drugs affect the body than doctors do. That is their job and their education. The way it should be is the doctor diagnose the problem, suggest remedies/meds, then the pharmacist prescribes them. Don't be surprised if this starts happening.

I'm sorry, I'm going

Frank Fontaine

The reason I think off topic is ok is that it illustrates where someone is coming from when they post. Someone may claim that red light cameras were designed to generate revenue, not to tag red-light runners and basically stop a certain behavior. Then they claim there's a conspiracy to make a green into a red without a yellow, at the expensive of rear end collisions. They will state a blue genie told them and then post a link with invalid and unreliable stats. They've got 40% of the forum behind them, until they show how out-of-touch they are, like saying a pharmacist shouldn't get the 92k avg salary they're getting. Again, I'm just mixing in some current events with the traffic cam topic. Hey, someday when I have a kid, I wouldn't steer them in the way I went with 7 yrs. of school, passing the state, etc. I don't toot my own horn, our profession has a lot of downs (40 hr. work weeks, yeah right), it's not like D*ck Wolf makes it out to be with his new show!