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Old 03-20-2005, 07:38 PM
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Anyone wanna share tips on removing Manual transmission?

I am going to start ripping into my parts car pretty soon and was wondering if anyone could share any tips that mad it easy when they removed their tranny to do a clutch install. I will be doing this on jack stands and i will have acess to 2 3 toon floor jacks, and basic air tools. Anything that could be helpful would be appreciated.
The car is a 1996 I30 5speed. i wanna remove the tranny and anything else useful
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Old 03-20-2005, 08:56 PM
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Remove drivers side tranny mount
Remove drivers side axel
Remove starter
Remove cross member with motor mouts
Support tranny with jack
Unbolt tranny, lower, and slide out drivers side wheel well.
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Get under the car, tie a chain around the tranny, attach it to your running maxima's frame. Get a very long chain and try to get your maxima to about 60mph, when the chain tightens, the tranny will be removed. Use a VERY heavy chain.
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http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/805

lots of tips here
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Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
Get under the car, tie a chain around the tranny, attach it to your running maxima's frame. Get a very long chain and try to get your maxima to about 60mph, when the chain tightens, the tranny will be removed. Use a VERY heavy chain.
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lol well i call it Kens Transmissions... HAHA cant wait to get mine back!
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:24 PM
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Label the bolts on the bell housing, or better yet use card bord and draw the outline so you know where the bolts go. take your time and dont rush. Get a friend to lend a hand if need be. Take a break if you get flustered or something. I did my own clutch 1st time alone. Its not a very difficult process, just time consuming. Oh, use a Haynes and FSM as guides.
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Originally Posted by JSutter
Label the bolts on the bell housing, or better yet use card bord and draw the outline so you know where the bolts go. take your time and dont rush. Get a friend to lend a hand if need be. Take a break if you get flustered or something. I did my own clutch 1st time alone. Its not a very difficult process, just time consuming. Oh, use a Haynes and FSM as guides.

Well Do you think its something anyone can do. time is not important. My main goal is removing the transmission. This is from a I30 5speed so i am planning on removing the tranny to keep and it will not be re installed on the car. I will be doing this on jack stands in my Yard. Any special tools i should know about before i get started? How difficult is it to remove the axle? i really want this tranny so i want to be careful and not damage it. Any other tips from anyone would be helpful
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1/2" drive deep sockets 10-24mm, 36mm for the axle nut 1/2" breaker bar, ratchet and extensions, 3/8" drive ractches, sockets and extensions, screw drivers, pry bar, mallet, blocks of wood (2x4), jack stands, 2 or more jacks, umm........gosh other stuff. no really special tools unless you are removing the flywheel.

I dont think anyone can do it, but if you have the time and patients then by all means go for it. You have the time, so do you have the patients? You do all the work to your car correct? If you get stuck you have the whole ORG to fall back on. I'll come down and pull it and take it home. Are you selling this tranny or installing it in the Max?
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Originally Posted by JSutter
1/2" drive deep sockets 10-24mm, 36mm for the axle nut 1/2" breaker bar, ratchet and extensions, 3/8" drive ractches, sockets and extensions, screw drivers, pry bar, mallet, blocks of wood (2x4), jack stands, 2 or more jacks, umm........gosh other stuff. no really special tools unless you are removing the flywheel.

I dont think anyone can do it, but if you have the time and patients then by all means go for it. You have the time, so do you have the patients? You do all the work to your car correct? If you get stuck you have the whole ORG to fall back on. I'll come down and pull it and take it home. Are you selling this tranny or installing it in the Max?
hmm maine isn't that far...maybe you should come hangout in mass and help me take the tranny out . This tranny is for my Max, not worth selling it no one would pay what its worth. I figure i have this car that i can use to practice on. so i can remove the tranny, once i know i can install it on my max and do the clutch myself.
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You may need a 3' pipe for the axle nuts depending on if they have ever been removed and if they were put back on with an impact set too high. Also lots of extensions for the rear motor mount bolt.
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unbolt
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lower


Mike, you dont have to lower the cross member to remove the tranny.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
You may need a 3' pipe for the axle nuts depending on if they have ever been removed and if they were put back on with an impact set too high. Also lots of extensions for the rear motor mount bolt.
well i have most of these tools listed so far and a couple nissan stock jacks and 2 craftsman 3 ton jacks. I am hoping everything is still in good shape since the tranny was reinstalled withing the last 30K. i will get pics once i throw it up on jack stands.
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Originally Posted by MrGone
unbolt
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Mike, you dont have to lower the cross member to remove the tranny.
The way we did it you have to let the motor/tranny angle down twords the drivers side. Removing the drivers side mount and dropping the motor mounts/cross member is the way to do it.
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can the engine be left dangling by the 2 side mounts? I will remove the crossmember with the 2 I30 mounts but i wanna keep them, deezo mentioned they are better than the maxima mounts. also i will use them as cores if i get ES inserts.
Also any tips that make it easy to reinstall aren't needed. The tranny isn't going back into this car. just need to get it out without any harm.

I am hoping to convince Jsutter give me a hand since he has experience.
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Old 03-22-2005, 07:26 AM
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How long does this normally take, to take off a tranny and put in a new one (I assume changing the clutch is quick/easy once the tranny is off)?
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Old 03-22-2005, 08:43 AM
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The whole job can be done in one full day. I have pulled my tranny 2-3 times on jack stands along side the street in front of my house. It took longer then 2 days because I ran into things. Usually it was just waiting to get the flywheel resurfaced, breaking tools, wrong axle seals and the then waiting because the parts store is closed. Getting the tranny out is easy and took a few hours without any big problems. I had a hard time getting the axle nut loose and the only way I was able to get it off was jacking up the end of the breaker bar with my floor jack. Once all the bellhousing bolts are out, you will need to do some prying to seperate the trans from the bellhousing. I used a tranny jack (scissor kind) to lower the tranny and pull it out through the driver's side wheel well. I removed both axles and left the crossmember up. Doing it this way was easiest for me. Ill put some pictures up on my cardomain so you can get an idea.
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heres some pics on page 2

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/480013/2
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:14 PM
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The crossmember doesn't have to be removed. I've done it twice with the crossmember still bolted up. (I removed it my first time however and it was a b!tch to put back on, unless you have help or a jack. With a small enough socket you can loosen those two lower bolts and just pull them out and leave them resting on the edge of the crossmember. They wont fall. You can also leave the passenger side axle on but you may have to remove the mount to help pry the tranny out, just be careful not to rip the cv boot.
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Nice pics!
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thanks for the tips guys.JeEvE where did you get the tranny jack?
what do you guys recommend FSM or hanyes manual. i have an FSM but doesn't really say how to remove the tranny
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I think I used the Haynes manual, it was more helpful. The jack I used is made by Central Hydraulics. I got mine on ebay, there always on there and they go for around $50.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=39178

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=46104
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thanks man for all the help
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I have the same jack. Might have to use a block of wood on the jack to center or angle the tranny properly.
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Originally Posted by MAXIN
I have the same jack. Might have to use a block of wood on the jack to center or angle the tranny properly.
i am not sure i will get one yet. i have 2 craftsman floor jacks and 4 jack stands i am going to try to wing it with those. Anyone have any other info about removing the Axles from the tranny? do the just slide in and out? do i really need to remove the passenger side since i am not going to be re installing a tranny in the car. i could care less if i damage the axle. my only concern is the tranny...
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Old 03-23-2005, 07:34 PM
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You do not have to remove the axle but every time I pulled my tranny I took it out, it just makes it easier. The axle dont just come out too easy, there is a small locking ring so you just have to yank on the end of the axle until it pops out. Dont forget to drain the tranny fluid. When I was pulling the transmission for the 2nd time I didnt use the manual and I ended up forgetting to drain the tranny fluid. When I yanked the axle out it was flowing out like a river
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Originally Posted by JeEvE
You do not have to remove the axle but every time I pulled my tranny I took it out, it just makes it easier. The axle dont just come out too easy, there is a small locking ring so you just have to yank on the end of the axle until it pops out. Dont forget to drain the tranny fluid. When I was pulling the transmission for the 2nd time I didnt use the manual and I ended up forgetting to drain the tranny fluid. When I yanked the axle out it was flowing out like a river
how many times have you removed the tranny?
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Originally Posted by zack342
how many times have you removed the tranny?
atleast 4. will be swapping again tommarrow

should take 3 hours tops.
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Originally Posted by zack342
how many times have you removed the tranny?
i think like 3 times
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if thats the case leave the passenger axle in... just remove that mounting bracket on the engine block and pull it out the from the diff
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if thats the case leave the passenger axle in... just remove that mounting bracket on the engine block and pull it out the from the diff
started this weekend. everything looks pretty straight forward. I am having a problem with one of the Y pipe bolts. All the bolts were rounded/rusted so a 14mm socket didn't fit. what i had to do was hammer on a 13mm socked and get them off tha way. That worked fine for 5 but the bolt closest to the crossmember on the rear exhaust manifold it is not possible to do this. Anyone have any tips on how i should approach this bolt. I am thinking of trying to cutoff the y pipe.
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Are you removing the y-pipe to remove the tranny? I left mine in and it was not in the way at all. For the bolt you are talking about, you may need one of those swivel joints to get to it.
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Originally Posted by JeEvE
Are you removing the y-pipe to remove the tranny? I left mine in and it was not in the way at all. For the bolt you are talking about, you may need one of those swivel joints to get to it.
i have one of the swivel joints but the bolt is rounded. i wish i could cut off the darn Y pipe. i thought i needed to removed the Y pipe to get the axle out?
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I would remove the engine and tranny as one. It will be much easier in the long run. The only problem is weight. Together they will be more than what 2 people can (or should) handle. I stripped a 2g Eclipse this way, but the only thing left to drop was the block and tranny. We really muscled it, and it was heavy. Best bet is to undo the center cross member, then the tranny mount, then the engine mount, and use a jack of some sort (or a cherry picker) to lower them. Why leave the engine in the car if its blown? If you want the engine in, you will need to reinstall the center cross member if you do take it out. Lining up the motor mounts can be time consuming.

I never got the tranny jack, but Autozone had one in stock if I really needed it. Insted I let the tranny fall (10") onto a couch coushin. Very simple.

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You do not have to remove the axle but every time I pulled my tranny I took it out, it just makes it easier. The axle dont just come out too easy, there is a small locking ring so you just have to yank on the end of the axle until it pops out. Dont forget to drain the tranny fluid. When I was pulling the transmission for the 2nd time I didnt use the manual and I ended up forgetting to drain the tranny fluid. When I yanked the axle out it was flowing out like a river
there is no circlip for the passangers side axle. You should know this by the 4th install (im playing)
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If you haven't already gotten the wheel hubs off (to pull the axle) I would rent an axle puller. Much easier and quicker than the motorvate instructions.
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Oh, also, the easiest way to get the axle out of the tranny is to push it in so that the CV joints compress and then yank it out hard.
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Originally Posted by JSutter
I would remove the engine and tranny as one. It will be much easier in the long run. The only problem is weight. Together they will be more than what 2 people can (or should) handle. I stripped a 2g Eclipse this way, but the only thing left to drop was the block and tranny. We really muscled it, and it was heavy. Best bet is to undo the center cross member, then the tranny mount, then the engine mount, and use a jack of some sort (or a cherry picker) to lower them. Why leave the engine in the car if its blown? If you want the engine in, you will need to reinstall the center cross member if you do take it out. Lining up the motor mounts can be time consuming.

I never got the tranny jack, but Autozone had one in stock if I really needed it. Insted I let the tranny fall (10") onto a couch coushin. Very simple.

there is no circlip for the passangers side axle. You should know this by the 4th install (im playing)
Are you going to be giving me a hand? I am still not sure when you will be available. I figured by removing all the Intake stuff and the Y pipe stuff it would be easy for when you get there. I am going to crack the axle nuts.
If you think dropping the engine would be the easiest i think we can do that and if we need additional manpower to over it around i can round up a couple people.
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I would think that unless you are planning on replacing the engine, there is really no point in dropping it too. I mean are you going to move this car in the future or what?

I can't really see where dropping the engine will speed things up. You've still got to take off the intake stuff, disconnect the y pipe, and take out the axles. Beyond that, all you have to do is disconnect the grounds and reverse sensor and unbolt the tranny.

I think it is probably easier to LEAVE the engine attached to the mounts - that way you can just pull the tranny off the engine. If they are both laying on the ground, under a car that is not on a lift, I would think it is harder to get the tranny off.

Just my 2 cents.
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i have done a bunch of thigs over the past week i will post pics.
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Max_Gator, he wants to pull the intake manifold and front exhaust manifold. Have you ever tried to do these things when the engine is in? Its a royal pain in the ****. Also the engine is blown, and its not doing any good in the car, so Zack said I could have it. Then in the long run he can pull other parts out easier for others who need parts. I just think it makes way more since.
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