My4DSC2000

http://ephatch.com/forum/showthread....threadid=14626

i know how you guys like visiting other boards.
i'm ADAMnQuickCIVIC over there by the way.
go easy on him.

NT2SHBBY

gimme a break....

2k2kev

Stock 2k2 "dips into the 13s"? I agree that guy is smoking, but don't muddy the water with misinformation about maximas.

Unless I missed something, the fastest stock 2k2/2k3 was a 14.2 and the only 13.x 2k2s have been modded. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

edit: oh, and I added my $0.02

My4DSC2000

somebody lend me a 6speed, i'll get 13s...
i dont beleive that hasnt been done yet...
i know the altima has...

2k2kev

are you going by that one altima thread that had the guy supposedly running 13, but the slip was a year old? There were too many questions around that to believe he really did it... like THAT SLIP WAS A YEAR OLD! He claimed the machine at the track had the wrong date set... right.

I haven't read of anyone here getting into the 13s in a stock 2k2/2k3, so why could you?

Nealoc187

iTrader: (23)

It wouldn't happen, but his point remains valid. An EP SI vs. any 95-2004 manual trannied maxima isn't even a race.

Blu

iTrader: (63)

add a couple years(02-04) of wimpy autos also

My4DSC2000

well i havent been here much since i sold my maxima...i figured someone woulda ran 13's by now, guess not...anyway the point still remains NO stock ep can beat a stick maxima...maybe one from the early 80's...the ep runs 15.6-15.8 w/ an extremely good driver...a 10 year old could do better than that in a maxima 5spd.

wait i got it...

maybe "eppilot" = "russmaxmaniac"...
did anyone hear he bought a civic? lol
just playin...
i know russ will read this...hehe...

happyricefob

iTrader: (7)

okie...there is no civic type-r in U.S.... wtf is he smoking?

2k2kev

there is in the UK and apparently it puts up respectible numbers, but not 2k2-type numbers

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

Quick get Steve to go post up his "VTEC" smiley.

Just for my knowledge, but doesn't the European Civic Type R come with the same 200hp K-motor as the RSX-S?

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

N/M it does....what a moron.

I know more about a Civic than a guy that owns one does? I feel dirty.

Charcoal95GXE

iTrader: (2)

I'll race him in my auto...b/c im auto i think i might need one of those red honda emblems to give me the edge tho....
-Brian

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

That's not enough...he's probably a few dozen stickers ahead of ya too.

Charcoal95GXE

iTrader: (2)

ill get a maxima.org license plate frame ..and 3 more red honda emblems..honda emblems are 50 hp a piece times 4 is 200..plus the .org license plate i should be close to 400hp at the wheels...that should gimme the edge i need.
-Brian

JAY25

iTrader: (38)

You got some funny guys on that forum

costcowholesale

iTrader: (12)

I beat one when I was running 15.8 at the track, got 2 cars on the guy by 80mph, now they don't have a chance

My4DSC2000

yea...
we have like 1/10th the membership of maxima.org...
but at least we dont have to EVER deal with this:

"Information
The server is currently busy. This means that too many users are currently accessing the system at the same time.
The Maxima.org servers have been set to limit the number of users accessing the system when the load is too great in order to keep from overloading the system and crashing the server. While this may seem inconvenient, this will keep the server from completely shutting down and not allowing any access to the system.

Typically the server will clear up in a few minutes. Please try again."

BTW: like the new setup here....nice job kev!
kev *IS* still the administrator i hope...lol...its been a while.

MaximaGXE93

Hey just curious. How's the Si? Fun car? Pros and cons?

2k2kev

and we don't ever have to deal with losing races to 8 year olds on green machines, and we don't ever say things like "but I have a fire extinguisher on my A-pillar why'd I lose that race?", and we can take 3 or 4 friends with us comfortably.... shall I go on?

Let's see... drive a maxima and deal with a busy org until the server gets fixed, or drive a civic and have a board that's never busy but only has monkey heads for smilies... that's not the toughest decision I'll make today, trust me.

My4DSC2000

dude you obviously missed the sarcasm in that post.
i would never bash the org, and as far as ricers in civics go, lets not go there, rice is just as frowned upon on ephatch as it is on maxima.org.
and beleive it or not, if you look around, there is very little rice on our forum...probably less than here to be honest.
i got out of my maxima for personal reasons that i'm not going to make public here, but i will say that the ep is a very fun car to drive, and though it's not as fast as my old maxima, there ARE things i like better about it.
And for the guy who asked for pro's and con's:

PRO'S:
(1) much better gas mileage...can you say 30+mpg...
(2) sweet interior...sporty seats, steering wheel, dash shifter, etc.
(3) w/ just a drop and wheels it handles like a champ...
(4) HUGE aftermarket, yes i will be turbo'ed by summer...
(5) EXCELLENT service dept' (compared to nissan)...
(6) Fits 5 avg adults easily, even my 6'6" 300+lb ***...
(7) Convenient Hatchback (fit 6 interior doors in the car).
(8) Good Honda resale value (wont lose 1/2 value in 2 yrs).

CON'S:
(1) on the heavy side at 2650 lbs, but nice torque for a 2.0L.
(2) styling has to grow on you, like the 5th gen tails...hehe.
(3) lacks the passing power of my maxima, slow for now (15.7).
(4) i'll let you know if i think of anything else.

Maxima is alot more car for the money, sticker vs. sticker ($22k for my 00' GXE vs. $19k for my 03' Si), you cant really compare these 2 cars because they have absolutely nothing in common. But I'll just say they both have their strong points and downfalls. I *DO* miss my Maxima........alot, but i won't say it was a mistake to buy my Si, I love this car too. And I'll love it alot more when it's making about 250hp+ this summer.

MaximaMoJo

This is probably a stupid question but, what does EP mean?

shi89max

i wouldnt say that much. type S RSX's are running 14.7's stock. typeR civic has that same engine and is lighter. put two and two together and im sure it would be pretty damb close to running lower 14's stock.

happyricefob

iTrader: (7)

i would have the SI for driftin. sometimes i really hate the handling on 4th gen cuz it's kinda fat. but again i would rather get a 240SX (RWD POWER) over SI for drifin, cuz SI won't make power until it hits vtec, where S14 will be makin enough power throughout low-mid rpm range.

SI has a lot of aftermarket support, parts are cheap and easy to get. but SI will never beat a 4th/5th gen max without forced induction.

My4DSC2000

Actually the 02+ Si makes very good low end power.
Comparable, if not more pull than the USDM 240SX (2.4L).
I had a 240SX, and yes the RWD is nice if you're gonna be drifting.
The 02+ is a COMPLETELY different car than the 99-00 Si.
The 02+ does not have that "VTEC punch", actually you do not even feel VTEC engagement.
But it has ALOT more power in low/mid range than the 99-00 Si.
That's why, even with an extra 300 lbs of weight and the same horsepower, it runs the same 1/4 mi.
As for a N/A Si never beating a 4/5th gen Max, well, we have some guys on ephatch running 14's w/ just bolt-ons... + slicks.
This is not an easy car to launch, the Maxima is much easier.

PS: "ep" is chassis code by Honda...like eg, ek, etc...

Maximax2

Yeah, autos are slow...

gtr_rider

iTrader: (50)

russ aint a member of these parts anymore

MONTE 01&97 SE

iTrader: (1)

Most of his own forum members are giving him grief. Any Max 95-01 auto or manual should beat a 02 Si, dont even mention the 02-04 Maximas..

reggaeboyz

iTrader: (3)

hahahha...for real...thats crazy..they got all them stickers all over them ricers

luckee2bhere

iTrader: (1)

i like SIs man....i really enjoy giving them a couple cars lead and then passing them by the time i hit 40mph...haha.

My4DSC2000

hahahaa...
damn you are a funny guy.

luckee2bhere

iTrader: (1)

man i was just fu ckin with you. relax buddy. thats the way me and my car friends are. we constantly crack on eachothers cars... the running joke on me is that i stole my car from a soccer mom and took the baby seat out of the back. my friends prelude is slower than most SUVs...

btw it is true. ive raced two SIs. one new one 3 times in a row. i was drinking had a slow RT and usually gave him about 2 seconds lead before i left. by the 1-2 shift I would jump ahead. believe what you will.

oh **** you are in NJ.
hit me up sometime. ill meet you and show you...

MaximaGXE93

I like ur SI. It's weird shaped but I like it. Kinda like a bubbly version of their Honda electric car, insight was it? Dunno. Si's look bad in black with mad tint. Evil.

BlueC

iTrader: (5)

Saw this last month when I was looking at reliability in a few cars, and I wondered off in the website and came across this. Well ofcourse I copied the screen and stored this for later use, incase a situation like this ever came up, cause its just too damn funny (for me atleast ).

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...050_9_full.gif

You cant really make out the words that well (it shrunk the image quite a bit), but mostly it says: Dont give fast cars to teenagers, give them a slow(yet agile)small car, such as a Acura Integra, Honda Civic, or Nissan Sentra..... You get the picture....

Romeo

you can drift in a FF? and no, pulling the ebrake around the corner is not drifting.

btw, EP is the chassis code

ZuMBLe

iTrader: (1)

Only place you'd be "driftin" is in to a curb. Civic SI is still front wheel drive. Ain't drifting anywhere with front wheel drive.

Frank Fontaine

Wouldn't a Golf be a better comparison? Pretty sure a VR6 could turn a Civic SiR (if it even exists) into toast. What's with the comparisons to a Lexus, that's RWD. Kinda like a junior associate trying to keep up with a partner!

My4DSC2000

#1.) I am relaxed. Not arguing with you at all, just saying your full of shiet (see my reason below, #3).

#2.) You don't have "to show me" what a Maxima is capable of.
The Maxima I traded in on this civic was a helluva lot faster than your mid 14 sec car, trust in that.

#3.)Ok, if you gave him a 2 second head start it would take you more than 1/4 mile to catch him (ie: if you run 14.5 and he runs 15.5 by the 1/4 mile point he would still have 1 full second on you (about 10 car lengths) and at that point youre already at about 90mph.
Even if the Si ran 16.5, it would take you the full 1/4 mi. to catch him.
So there is NO WAY you could give him a 2 second head start and pass him by the 1-2 shift (35 mph).
That's just B.S., plain and simple.
Reality check.

PS: Yes I am in Jersey and am at Etown every Weds. and sometimes weekends too. If you want to race I'm down and I'm willing to put money on the race too, braket racing of course. If you wanna go heads up you're gonna have to give me a couple months yet.

luckee2bhere

iTrader: (1)

what Max did you trade in?

btw ...what you said makes tons of sense cept for 3 things:

1. the driver prolly sucked ***** which i failed to mention because i was bustin your *****

2. you cant just look at the final ET. problem is 1st and 2nd I would pull...3rd you would prolly pull back alittle. My torque and your vtec among other numerous factors.

3. street racin is not dragstrip racing...we raced on the street.

my 0-60 was about 6.1 before exhaust, udp, and clutch...what is yours?
i would guess high 7s. that would be part of what accounts for me passin you by 60 if I gave you a small head start.

btw my car is capable of low 14s. i just havent had enough practice yet/car is f-ed up.


ill admit i was exagerating...it was prolly 1.4 secs.

dude i love hondas so dont think im bashin you...you doing FI soon?

My4DSC2000

The Max i traded was a 2000 GXE 5-speed, which ran 14.8 @ 95 stock, and remained stock for only a couple months.
Coming into the Maxima off a 300HP turbo civic, I decided quickly I need boost...so the Vortech V2 (Stealin' Supercharger) went on...some minor upgrades and a 10psi pulley, and it went pretty good.
Then got the NOS fever and threw a 100 shot on it (took the blower off first of course).
Had my fun for about 2 years, making over 300hp and 350tq.
Then parted it out (sold the supercharger to kevinG) and traded it in on this civic.
The plan was to give the civic to the wife and get a G35 coupe, but unfortunately I lost my job, so the G35 isnt gonna happen for a while.
In the meantime, I will just turbo my civic and have to be happy with mid-13's (probably by the end of June).

Bust my ***** all you want, at least now you know where I'm comin from.

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