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Old 06-13-2004, 10:06 AM
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warped rotors on 2K only?

Is the rotor warping problem specific to 2K only?

I have a 2K1 SE 5sp. The steering wheel shakes a little during braking at high speed.... not sure if it's the rotor or something to do with alignment.

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Screw that. My rotors warped on my 2002 I35 with only 25k on the clock. I fought with infiniti for ages and they wouldnt do ****. Held to "normal wear and tear," even after admiting that they shouldnt have gone that soon. What a ****ing joke! I told them that my peice of crap Grand Cherokee 5.9 lasted twice as long and that think was a track queen, and if infiniti/nissan products are that ****ty I wont buy again. They, of course, didnt give a flying ****.
 
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No, warped rotors can occur on later model years also. I got warped rotors after owning my 2001 for one year. I found a dealer that would honor the brake judder TSB and cover it under warranty. Since then, I've been careful to torque my lugnuts evenly to spec., and I haven't had the problem again.
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that's good to know, maybe next week I will take it in for a check..... Alignment does play a major role though. I used to have a 1990 240SX (loved that car), it shook big time during braking at high speed, the car didnt pull to side but during annual inspection they told me alignment was bad, had it done and the warping was reduced by 80%.
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Mine shakes when braking at high speeds also. People told me too that my rotors were warped. Its a 2002. I want to find my nearest nissan service center and see if they will replace my mats and change the rotors for free since it is still under warrenty.
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My car goes to nissan today for the 2nd time in 11k miles..If those fools cut them again I will be very upset....My 3 years are up in Oct.

What's the deal with Nissan rotors on the max & alti?
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"not sure if it's the rotor or something to do with alignment. " Almost certainly rotor. Mine were doing it on my 2k. Braking from highway speeds I'd get increasingly bad stuttering. After much soul-searching I decided to not buy new rotors, but just resurface the old for 1/3 the price. So far at 3k milse they're still good, though I have no idea how long they'll last. I would not buy OEM rotors though - go with brembo blanks or something.

Also for pads I went with $42 performance friction pads from autozone and them and the resurfaced rotors have so far been good.
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I have a 2K, with 56K mile on it. Front rotors warp badly, and resurfacing will not cure the problem. I have had the rotors turned 3 times, only to have the judder return after about 6K miles.

I tried Stillen cross drilled rotors, but did not stay with them because they generated a real irritating whinning when stopping, even after driving for 200 - 300 miles.

I'm looking for something else
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Yes, they warp on the 2k1 as well.....The problem is that our rotors are undersized for how heavy the maxima is....nissan engineers apparently not very intelligent (except for those that designed the mighty VQ, of course)

For those of you with 17" or larger rims (including the stock SE rims), here is the solution:

http://www.mattblehm.com/relocation_kit.html

This is what I have...smooth as butter, not too expensive....no more brake judder/vibration/warping

compare in this pic our OEM rotors with the 2004 maxima rotors this kit allows you to use:

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Old 06-30-2004, 05:30 PM
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man my rotors warp faster than my pads...

i'm getting a BBK ASAP..
 
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hey guys i'm getting my front rotors replace with brembo blanks next weeks...i'm pairing them with stock pads...would this get rid of the vibration and brake judder when i brake during high speeds?
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blemco is the way to go. I will do the bigger rotors with better pads. everyone seems to like that setup as well..
 
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no diference for me if its OEM or Brembo blanks. 10-15k miles and its starts to shake really bad and needs resurfacing. Tried OEM and Quet Stop pads (dont remember the maker)..

They are too small for our big maximas..
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Originally Posted by 98coupev6
hey guys i'm getting my front rotors replace with brembo blanks next weeks...i'm pairing them with stock pads...would this get rid of the vibration and brake judder when i brake during high speeds?

Yes it will. And make sure you hand torque the lug nuts.
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Originally Posted by NJ Devils Fan
Mine shakes when braking at high speeds also. People told me too that my rotors were warped. Its a 2002. I want to find my nearest nissan service center and see if they will replace my mats and change the rotors for free since it is still under warrenty.
Good luck... I've visit my dealer twice (at 15k and at 21k) and both times they just resurfaced them. Now, at 25k, the brakes are pulsating once again. I think I'm giving up and going aftermarket...
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Originally Posted by TheyCallMeSteel
Screw that. My rotors warped on my 2002 I35 with only 25k on the clock. I fought with infiniti for ages and they wouldnt do ****. Held to "normal wear and tear," even after admiting that they shouldnt have gone that soon. What a ****ing joke! I told them that my peice of crap Grand Cherokee 5.9 lasted twice as long and that think was a track queen, and if infiniti/nissan products are that ****ty I wont buy again. They, of course, didnt give a flying ****.
You won't believe this... but I said the same to my Nissan dealer. Except it was concerning the exhaust system which went out after 4.5 years only. I just replaced it 2 days ago (no choice because of the noise). I got many cars previously and the exhaust lasted much longer than that. I bought a '92 Taurus LX brand new that I still own and I never replaced the exhaust (I stiil own the car!)

By the way, I know the Taurus is not the same quality... or is it?
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my rotors have been warped on my 2k SE 5-speed. time for an upgrade.
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:22 AM
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The rotors on my 02 Altima warped 2 X in under 11K miles.

Nissan really sucks..They cut them 2 X and installed the same old brakes 2 X.

I will be certain to warp these...They owe me new rotors
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Probably one of the most annoying aspects of owning a maxima. After you fix it, before you know it you feel slight virbrations then anger to follow shortly.
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Overall though, the Max is a very good car. The chassis is rigid, driving is very safe and luxury is acceptable (I am talking about a 2000 car).

My brother-in-law owns a 2004 Accord fully-equipped (leather, NAVI. bla,bla,bla).

Very nice car... except I told him that it was not in the same class than the Max (5 years older). He agreed... (we are more talking about the Acura TL)
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Old 07-06-2004, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by aussie983
Yes it will. And make sure you hand torque the lug nuts.
What's the wheel nut tightening torque for our car?
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guys just get either a true BBK (if you want to drop a couple grand) or get the BlehmCo kit (if you want to spend a couple hundred). Both of these will eliminate the warping rotors. Period. ANY brand of aftermarket rotors that are the OEM size (10.6" i think) are going to warp eventually. They are simply too small for the weight of the car...you gotta go bigger (12" 2k4 rotors or 12+" BBK rotors) if you want to be sure...Nissan is NOT going to solve this problem or do anything to fix it for you, so just give it up!
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i think 70-80 or thereabouts if i recall correctly.
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I personally hand-torqued the lugs to spec the last 2 times my buddy got his maxima rotors turned for warpage....so I know they were dead-on. guess, what, his warped a third time in under 3 months.

i don't recall the spec off the top of my head, but I looked it up at the time in the shop manual...I'll check in a little while if I get the chance and will post torque ratings here...
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Ok so if I have a stock 2001 GLE what is my best option for a bigger rotor? I have 46k on it and they are warped bad. Will those from Matt Blehm fit a stock 2k1 GLE?

If not what are my other options?
Thanks
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the blehm kit will fit if you have the OEM 17" rims, but not if you have the 16", unfortunately. If you have the 16" rims, you really have no BBK option at all...
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Originally Posted by irish44j
the blehm kit will fit if you have the OEM 17" rims, but not if you have the 16", unfortunately. If you have the 16" rims, you really have no BBK option at all...
I have 2000 GXE ( worst maxima ) My rims are 16". If I need BBk, I have to change my rims as well then? Can I change to 2004 12" rotors for a 16"rims?
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no, the 2004 rotors with the BlehmCo kit will not fit inside the 16" rims...they just barely clear the OEM 17's as you can see here:
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Funny. I was going to post a thread asking why my Max shakes when breaking from a high speed.

I got a scare on the interstate when I was doing 75 mph and some idiot pulled over on me. The steering wheel shakes so hard that it's almost hard to control.

I'm still under warrentee @ 55000 but looks like you guys are saying that the problem really can't be fixed permenantly.
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I assume that the 12.6's use the 5th gen calipers and pads? Are there any plans to upgrade to 6th gen calipers?
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[QUOTE=irish44j]Yes, they warp on the 2k1 as well.....The problem is that our rotors are undersized for how heavy the maxima is....nissan engineers apparently not very intelligent (except for those that designed the mighty VQ, of course)

For those of you with 17" or larger rims (including the stock SE rims), here is the solution:

http://www.mattblehm.com/relocation_kit.html


Irish, how many miles do you have on Matt's kit? What pads did you go with? Any issues so far? With stock 17'' by how much does it clear? In the winter, if all kinds of ice and snow get stuck there ... wondering if there would be any problems?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by irish44j
no, the 2004 rotors with the BlehmCo kit will not fit inside the 16" rims...they just barely clear the OEM 17's as you can see here:
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How if I change my 16" rims to 18"? will 2004 rotors fit?
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Originally Posted by Alicia
Funny. I was going to post a thread asking why my Max shakes when breaking from a high speed.

I got a scare on the interstate when I was doing 75 mph and some idiot pulled over on me. The steering wheel shakes so hard that it's almost hard to control.

I'm still under warrentee @ 55000 but looks like you guys are saying that the problem really can't be fixed permenantly.
Tell those !d!ots in the garages stop OVERTIGHTENING your wheel nuts. Keep away from those garages who are using compact wrenches.
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schernov - I probably have about 7-10K on them by now, but not really sure, might be a little less. I do drive hard in alot of heavy traffic on the DC beltway daily, so they get ALOT of use...

I use some basic cheap OEM replacement pads form the local auto store...Bendix

Clearance is maybe an inch....I'm not concerned about snow and ice, I didn't get any last winter stuck in the rims, the OEM 17's don't hold snow much..

Bl_asd: yes, they will

Flip94: no, I have no reason to upgrade the calipers. The OEM ones fit fine and getting new ones would add $$$ to the kit, no doubt. Matt also sells a kit that uses 300ZX calipers (which are larger) but you need to have 18" rims to fit those in there....

00Max....I really don't think lug torque is the major factor....read my post above about my buddy's max...that's a nice theory, but the fact is that our rotors are too damn small no matter how you look at it....

whew! out of breath now....
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Lug nut torque is a factor....But...Nissan has crappy rotors no matter what the tq is

By the way..What is a Compact wrench? lolol Does it go in your purse?
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Originally Posted by wild *****
Lug nut torque is a factor....But...Nissan has crappy rotors no matter what the tq is

By the way..What is a Compact wrench? lolol Does it go in your purse?
I think I mean impact wrench lol
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Anyone have luck with dealers repairing front brake shuddering on 2002 Maxima's? I went to a local shop and they stated I need new pads and rotors ($400). But, they said there is a TSB out for my car and that I should bring to dealer. The TSB # the local shop gave me was NTB-00-033A. Searching that TSB number I can't find anything.

I have 25,000 miles on my 2002 SE.

Your input on what dealers have done for you, and if you have seen this TSB is appreciated.
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You definitely have a case. They will probalbly try and screw u though, by saying only covered for 12k miles and say its a wear and tear item. Thats what happened to me....

I went and got brembo blanks and MM pads instead.

U should be able to find the TSB here:

http://maxima.theowensfamily.com/

but it seems to be down for now...
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