View Poll Results: Common 5th gen. Max problem? - Has your wheel bearing gone bad?
No drop and I had or currently have a wheel bearing issue
140
18.02%
No drop and I have had more than one wheel bearing issue
35
4.50%
Drop on Eibach, H&R, Maxspeed, H-tech and had one wheel bearing issue
31
3.99%
Drop on Eibach, H&R, Maxspeed, H-tech and have no wheel bearing issues
77
9.91%
Drop on Eibach, H&R, Maxspeed, H-tech and had more than one wheel bearing issue
12
1.54%
Drop Progress, Tein S-tech, Sprint and had one wheel bearing issue
13
1.67%
Drop on Progress, Tein S-tech, Sprint and had more than one wheel bearing issue
7
0.90%
Drop on Progress, Tein S-tech, Sprint and have no wheel bearing issue
38
4.89%
No drop. No wheel bearing issues.
424
54.57%
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Common 5th gen. Max problem? - Has this happened to you?
03-20-2004, 06:02 AM
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Common 5th gen. Max problem? - Has this happened to you?
It sounds like wheel bearing issues are pretty common judging by the responses in http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=295640.
For those unfamiliar with wheel bearing issues, it sounds like the wheel is loose even when the lugs and suspension components are tight. You can especially hear this when you pull over a speed bump crooked or out of a driveway. As it gets worse it will sound like the wheel may be wobbling just a bit as you run down the road.
Have you experienced this on your 5th gen?? Vote above.
EDIT> I included the suspension questions in the poll above because I suspect those with a drop experience this issue more since hard impacts which can damage the wheel bearings are likely more common.
For those unfamiliar with wheel bearing issues, it sounds like the wheel is loose even when the lugs and suspension components are tight. You can especially hear this when you pull over a speed bump crooked or out of a driveway. As it gets worse it will sound like the wheel may be wobbling just a bit as you run down the road.
Have you experienced this on your 5th gen?? Vote above.
EDIT> I included the suspension questions in the poll above because I suspect those with a drop experience this issue more since hard impacts which can damage the wheel bearings are likely more common.
03-20-2004, 12:33 PM
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hmm, from reading the symptoms, sounds like something i've encountered, but i never fixed it
i just swapped my suspension recently and got my car running again.. i'll see if it returns and then check everything.
i just swapped my suspension recently and got my car running again.. i'll see if it returns and then check everything.
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03-21-2004, 01:02 PM
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is a symptom of this a "woo-du, woo-du" sound per revolution of the wheel and speeds up in conjuction with vehicle speed? If so, this is my problem
you can hear the wheels with the car while its slowing down
you can hear the wheels with the car while its slowing down
03-21-2004, 04:40 PM
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Most wheel bearing issues will result in a clicking sound coming from that particular wheel. I had the same problem that you guys are describing with a 2002 Cavalier and it turned out to be bad strut mounts, this was discovered after only 6 trips back to the Chevy dealer, hince the reason we have the Max, long live Nissan!
03-21-2004, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
is a symptom of this a "woo-du, woo-du" sound per revolution of the wheel and speeds up in conjuction with vehicle speed? If so, this is my problem
you can hear the wheels with the car while its slowing down
you can hear the wheels with the car while its slowing down
03-22-2004, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
is a symptom of this a "woo-du, woo-du" sound per revolution of the wheel and speeds up in conjuction with vehicle speed? If so, this is my problem
you can hear the wheels with the car while its slowing down
you can hear the wheels with the car while its slowing down
I bent a rim last year on the same corner as the noise seems to be coming from.
I had the rim repaired and it drove and sounded totally normal for about 6 months. Then suddenly one day, I noticed this noise.
I have since dropped my car with Maxspeeds and stock struts, but the noise preceded this modification and new tires.
03-22-2004, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by redstradic
it was my strut bearing causing the problem on my drop. H-tech/GR2s
03-24-2004, 07:10 AM
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Thats weird, i have this issue on my car where when i turn it slightly, only to the right, and i go over a slight bump the left front side makes a loose sounding noise, like something is rattleing in that section. I took it to strauss, auto place store, they told me that it was a stabilizer link. But it sounds as if its the same thing that your explaining so i dont know.
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03-25-2004, 08:37 AM
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Had the problem just before I dropped my ride. Wheel bearings going bad on 5th gens is a very common thing. The dealer I took mine to had another one there that day for the very same thing, and had a total of 8 that month. They average about 3-4 per month...
03-25-2004, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DougJones
Does anyone have the part numbers needed for a DIY wheel bearing change? I'm out of warranty and would rather not have the dealer bend me over.
"Mr Turner, it is covered under the powertrain warranty"! I have 42,000 miles on my car and he was aware of that.
I do not really think it is a do it yourself job, because it requires disassembly of a fair amount of the suspension, and a heavy duty bearing press.
03-25-2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SEturner
Here is a word to the wise. I called my service guy at the dealership to get a quote on doing it myself and he told me about 1.5 hours labor ($105) and about $68 for the bearing. He told me to hold on for a minute, came back and said:
"Mr Turner, it is covered under the powertrain warranty"! I have 42,000 miles on my car and he was aware of that.
I do not really think it is a do it yourself job, because it requires disassembly of a fair amount of the suspension, and a heavy duty bearing press.
"Mr Turner, it is covered under the powertrain warranty"! I have 42,000 miles on my car and he was aware of that.
I do not really think it is a do it yourself job, because it requires disassembly of a fair amount of the suspension, and a heavy duty bearing press.
Thanks
03-25-2004, 03:08 PM
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Wheel bearing noise will sound like something orbital is whirring in the car, it gets louder as the speed increases. I've repleaced my rears 2 times by now- I had a set of Konig Tantrums on the car long time ago and they didn't fit over the rear wheel bearing dust boots- so I took them out thinking dirt won't get int there.... well after like 40K miles it did and wore it out- Nissan Covered it, then they went out again around 60K miles and repleaced them myself- took me whole whoppn 20 min for both sides. My fronts are still good- knock on wood-80k miles.
03-25-2004, 03:58 PM
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Mine are BAD. Scary that china's main nut was loose. I've been driving with this condition for some time. I believe 'drop' to be the contributing factor here, however, I believe the steering 'bump stop' removals to also be an equal contributing factor. I put my bump stops back in after I found out they were bad. Yes, it takes u-turns like a greyhound, but it wasnt *much* better with the stops removed either, so go figure.......
03-25-2004, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
Wheel bearing noise will sound like something orbital is whirring in the car, it gets louder as the speed increases. I've repleaced my rears 2 times by now- I had a set of Konig Tantrums on the car long time ago and they didn't fit over the rear wheel bearing dust boots- so I took them out thinking dirt won't get int there.... well after like 40K miles it did and wore it out- Nissan Covered it, then they went out again around 60K miles and repleaced them myself- took me whole whoppn 20 min for both sides. My fronts are still good- knock on wood-80k miles.
since you changed them,,what is the part # and any advice on how-2?? thats what ppl wanna know
03-25-2004, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DougJones
If it's only a $200 job, I definately have no problems handing over the keys to the dealer. I'll give mine a call and see what they tell me.
Thanks
Thanks
..are you going to pay a stinky mechanic,,or get dirty and do it yourself?? ,,i saw that on someone's web site when i first bought her....so go ahead and pay someone who will charge you up the ar$e, and won't care if it is done correctly 
03-25-2004, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dba1999us
uuh as if you haven't had a feel, but most ppl here wanna get down and dirty and fix the stuff themselves ..are you going to pay a stinky mechanic,,or get dirty and do it yourself?? ,,i saw that on someone's web site when i first bought her....so go ahead and pay someone who will charge you up the ar$e, and won't care if it is done correctly
..are you going to pay a stinky mechanic,,or get dirty and do it yourself?? ,,i saw that on someone's web site when i first bought her....so go ahead and pay someone who will charge you up the ar$e, and won't care if it is done correctly IF YOUR CAR IS LESS THAN 5 YEARS OR 60,000 MILES, WHEEL BEARINGS ARE COVERED UNDER THE FREE STANDARD POWERTRAIN WARRANTY.
******FREE******** Free almost always beats doing it myself
03-25-2004, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SEturner
Here is a word to the wise. I called my service guy at the dealership to get a quote on doing it myself and he told me about 1.5 hours labor ($105) and about $68 for the bearing. He told me to hold on for a minute, came back and said:
"Mr Turner, it is covered under the powertrain warranty"! I have 42,000 miles on my car and he was aware of that.
I do not really think it is a do it yourself job, because it requires disassembly of a fair amount of the suspension, and a heavy duty bearing press.
"Mr Turner, it is covered under the powertrain warranty"! I have 42,000 miles on my car and he was aware of that.
I do not really think it is a do it yourself job, because it requires disassembly of a fair amount of the suspension, and a heavy duty bearing press.
03-25-2004, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by housecor
Are you certain that a bearing press is necessary? It was my understanding it is a bolt on hub assembly. Could the dealer be telling you stories here?
However, I looked up the prices on 1stnissanparts.com and the price of a front bearing is $68 retail and $50 with their discount. The front hub assembly (including bearing?) is $140 retail and $105 with discount. So, I could order hub and install for $105 plus shipping, or let dealer do it for $173. Of course, this was if I had exceeded my standard 5yr/60k mile powertrain warranty.
The bearing press comes into play when I viewed a website ( http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/704 ) of a 4th gen owner with illustrated instructions. The instructions involved PULLING THE ENTIRE AXLE out of the transaxle, pressing out the bearings, and replacing. This is beyond my personal comfort level.
The 1stnissanparts.com site is the best I have seen for parts. They show illustrations of all assemblies! The front bearings are under front suspension\brake components.
03-26-2004, 12:04 AM
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could a "squeak squeak squeak" sound that syncronizes with the wheel speed also be a wheel bearing problem? How about a groaning under low-speed breaking? My car happens to be doing both of these right now. It started occuring right at the same time when my brake pads wore out. I thought it would go away with the pad replacement, but it didn't 
03-26-2004, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dba1999us
uuh as if you haven't had a feel, but most ppl here wanna get down and dirty and fix the stuff themselves ..are you going to pay a stinky mechanic,,or get dirty and do it yourself?? ,,i saw that on someone's web site when i first bought her....so go ahead and pay someone who will charge you up the ar$e, and won't care if it is done correctly
..are you going to pay a stinky mechanic,,or get dirty and do it yourself?? ,,i saw that on someone's web site when i first bought her....so go ahead and pay someone who will charge you up the ar$e, and won't care if it is done correctly If the parts & labor are cheap, I do have better things to do with my time than change wheel bearings. If you do not, shame on you
03-26-2004, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SEturner
I think you and Doug Jones missed the point I was making:
IF YOUR CAR IS LESS THAN 5 YEARS OR 60,000 MILES, WHEEL BEARINGS ARE COVERED UNDER THE FREE STANDARD POWERTRAIN WARRANTY.
******FREE********
Free almost always beats doing it myself
IF YOUR CAR IS LESS THAN 5 YEARS OR 60,000 MILES, WHEEL BEARINGS ARE COVERED UNDER THE FREE STANDARD POWERTRAIN WARRANTY.
******FREE******** Free almost always beats doing it myself
I didn't miss the point you were trying to make. I am beyond the 60k mark, so I'd rather save a buck and do it myself as opposed to taking it anywhere (let alone the dealer). However, if it's a relatively inexpensive job for the dealer to do, I say let 'em have at it.
03-26-2004, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DougJones
I didn't miss the point you were trying to make. I am beyond the 60k mark, so I'd rather save a buck and do it myself as opposed to taking it anywhere (let alone the dealer). However, if it's a relatively inexpensive job for the dealer to do, I say let 'em have at it.
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03-26-2004, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SEturner
Sorry Doug, I just saw that you have a 2K2 and assumed you were under the limits. I drive alot, and I only have 42,000 miles. I thought my mileage was probably worse than most.
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03-29-2004, 12:59 PM
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Update:
Update: I just had crank sensor recall performed and front right bearing replaced. Charges to me were $0 It was definetely the bearing. All bad noise is gone. I saw the warranty copy of paperwork and it appeared the dealer charged Nissan $68 for the bearing and 1.9 hrs labor ($133). So this is about $201 plus tax for us. By the way, one of the bearing races is in the front steering knuckle, so just buying and installing new hub will not cure problem.
It was definetely the bearing. All bad noise is gone. I saw the warranty copy of paperwork and it appeared the dealer charged Nissan $68 for the bearing and 1.9 hrs labor ($133). So this is about $201 plus tax for us. By the way, one of the bearing races is in the front steering knuckle, so just buying and installing new hub will not cure problem.
03-29-2004, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SEturner
Update: I just had crank sensor recall performed and front right bearing replaced. Charges to me were $0 It was definetely the bearing. All bad noise is gone. I saw the warranty copy of paperwork and it appeared the dealer charged Nissan $68 for the bearing and 1.9 hrs labor ($133). So this is about $201 plus tax for us. By the way, one of the bearing races is in the front steering knuckle, so just buying and installing new hub will not cure problem.
It was definetely the bearing. All bad noise is gone. I saw the warranty copy of paperwork and it appeared the dealer charged Nissan $68 for the bearing and 1.9 hrs labor ($133). So this is about $201 plus tax for us. By the way, one of the bearing races is in the front steering knuckle, so just buying and installing new hub will not cure problem.If you would, please pm me the part numbers for the bearing change.
Thanks,
Doug
04-02-2004, 08:49 PM
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i am lowered on maxspeeds...and i have this issue twice already and might be goin in again for 3rd time.. and no i have not removed the springs before takin in dealer...when they see me comin now they know not to say anything and just fix the problem. the sound i get is a very loud vibration and something sounds liek its loose and spinnin out of control...both times it was the wheel bearing...maybe theres something else causin the problem because i keep gettin it replaced. now im just havin a low wobblin sound as i drive...just waitin for it to start clickin and vibratin again so i can screw around the dealer more
04-08-2004, 06:12 AM
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I had both of my wheel bearings on the front go out within 2 months of each other. I had the car dropped for a loooong time before it happened. They were so bad i had to replace the hub assembly and the bearing...not cheap, the hub assembly DOESNT come with the bearing and its like $145 and the bearing is around $65. You could actually see the wheel wiggling, It was amazing how i even made it to the shop up the street to have it done. I also had to replace a CV axle at the same time because of some **** that i hit one night driving home on these crappy SC roads. Whatever it was cut the CV axle boot and all the grease leaked out everywhere and caused the joint to go bad. I dont even think you guys wanna know how much a new Nissan CV axle is...or at least how much they wanted for one here at my local dealer.
