View Poll Results: Header & Y-Pipe Options
Cattman Header & Y-Pipe Combo
45
28.48%
Cattman Y-Pipe
23
14.56%
WarpSpeed Y-Pipe
48
30.38%
Budget Y-Pipe
42
26.58%
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Header & Y-Pipe Options
10-07-2004, 06:04 AM
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Header & Y-Pipe Options
would you pay $800 for header & y with an installation of about $450 minimum for about 20 hp? or just go for a y and get about 14-15 hp for $350 or less? if the y alone, please select which brand... im open to comments...
all pipes will be stainless steel!!! i want to do things right...
all pipes will be stainless steel!!! i want to do things right...
10-07-2004, 07:33 PM
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I think that is the question he's asking...and personally...I'd check the bank. That would be my determining factor. I personally am cheap, would figure out a way to do it myself or have a mechanic help me, would probably go with just y pipe first, then move on to headers later.
10-07-2004, 07:37 PM
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thats why i am asking... i need you guys opinion to help me decide if ~20hp is worth that much money... of course, i would only have to do it once... that would be doing it right the first time you know? i don't know if i could put it on myself... i probably could pull some strings with some friends i know around town, but still $800 for ~20hp... would you do it?
im getting about $125-$150 weekly and have about $200 now... so i could get the headers & y in about a month, but if i decide to get just the y, then i could get in about a week or so...
thats why this thread exists...
im getting about $125-$150 weekly and have about $200 now... so i could get the headers & y in about a month, but if i decide to get just the y, then i could get in about a week or so...
thats why this thread exists...
10-07-2004, 07:47 PM
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okay before I go on and give you a fatherly speech on why you should save your money when your making that much, I'll just say get the Y pipe and its not worth it... theres alot better things to spend your money on... get your g/f something nice, she'll give you alot more than your car can 
10-07-2004, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
okay before I go on and give you a fatherly speech on why you should save your money when your making that much, I'll just say get the Y pipe and its not worth it... theres alot better things to spend your money on... get your g/f something nice, she'll give you alot more than your car can
10-08-2004, 08:26 AM
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Vote posted...
I have the headers... and did the install myself so I saved some money, but I also could afford it in the first place. The gain is about 20hp... so if you don't really have the money, I'd just go for a Y-pipe. Whichever way you go get stainless though.. If you decide to upgrade to headers in the future, they come with their own Y pipe and as was mentioned you can't just bolt a different Y pipe up to the headers.
I have the headers... and did the install myself so I saved some money, but I also could afford it in the first place. The gain is about 20hp... so if you don't really have the money, I'd just go for a Y-pipe. Whichever way you go get stainless though.. If you decide to upgrade to headers in the future, they come with their own Y pipe and as was mentioned you can't just bolt a different Y pipe up to the headers.
10-08-2004, 10:57 AM
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you could always get the y pipe with the group deal and save some money....then later on if you want the headers, sell the y pipe on the org here and make some of the money back...so it wouldn't be a complete loss!!
10-08-2004, 10:58 AM
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furthermore, I would say if you are boosted or planning on boost, get the headers at all costs....cause the gain is huge....but NA, stick with just a y pipe until you run into some extra money in the future...
10-17-2004, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelnyden
furthermore, I would say if you are boosted or planning on boost, get the headers at all costs....cause the gain is huge....but NA, stick with just a y pipe until you run into some extra money in the future...
but you cant use them with a turbo....SC only
10-17-2004, 09:27 PM
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Forget the headers, for now 
Get a premade b-pipe or get your local exhaust shop to mandrel bend one for you. With the y-pipe/b-pipe combo, you'll only be short about ~2-3hp compared to the headers. Only thing you won't have is the nice sound of the headers.
Get a premade b-pipe or get your local exhaust shop to mandrel bend one for you. With the y-pipe/b-pipe combo, you'll only be short about ~2-3hp compared to the headers. Only thing you won't have is the nice sound of the headers.
10-18-2004, 01:48 AM
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I just have to say though that one of the beautiful things about the headers is that they give you that edge over EVERYONE else who has just a y. It's definately a novelty but I think it's legetimate to take pride in having the little extra edge
Then add a b-pipe on top of that...
Then add a b-pipe on top of that...
11-20-2004, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by collin
doesnt obx and stone racing have headers also
maxmods claims that they should be good for around 3-5 hp... but they also have no proof... just claims...
anyone have them and would like to add?
i guess that would solve my problem though if they did prove to be a moddest mod... i could get a y-pipe and add the headers on later... unfortunately i can't do that with cattmans... sneaky bast****
j/k...
11-20-2004, 09:07 PM
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11-20-2004, 09:48 PM
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wow, i must say i overlooked that. thanks for bringing it to my attention...
the videos and numbers are nice... the y looks very clean with nice welds...
someone has these dont they? id like to hear more...
it looks to be a pretty nice setup but hows it about longevity? and flaws the y may experience like others (wsp, stillen)...
it looks to be using a shorter collector as well like cattmans?
any input?
the videos and numbers are nice... the y looks very clean with nice welds...
someone has these dont they? id like to hear more...
it looks to be a pretty nice setup but hows it about longevity? and flaws the y may experience like others (wsp, stillen)...
it looks to be using a shorter collector as well like cattmans?
any input?
11-21-2004, 12:28 AM
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Stone Racing really needs to post a dyno of aftermarket y-pipe/stock manifolds vs. aftermarket y-pipe/headers. Until then most people will and rightfully should assume that nearly all the gains are from the Y. I'm pulling my engine this winter and I'd like to do the headers while its out. Definitive answers are required for me to justify $400. Sure it sounds cool and you get to say you have headers but is that worth $400?
01-23-2005, 04:27 PM
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so what is so wrong with Stillen's Y pipe that no one has one? i seriously have never seen anyone with one in there sig's or on there car domain site. Is there flex still garbage? i thought they fixed that. BTW whos max is this? HERE why is it that 5 spd max's with y pipes make that turboy noise? the whistle? even in any videos that i have with 5 spd maxes on dyno's on streets anything theres only about 3-4 max's that ive actually heard that have that noise at full throttle maybe its the secret stillen weapon... 
01-24-2005, 08:36 PM
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whats up with this no one answers to my post after 10 million look? if no one responds then im going to be forced to buy the secret weapon (stillen) and force you all to listen to vids of my hissing pipe
01-26-2005, 04:12 PM
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i purchased the sr header and y pipe this week. seems to be a well made piece. The welds are good, with a little bit of porting being not necessary in the pipe to remove a small amount of flashing. not much at all. is it possible to bolt just the y pipe on? i would be willing to test this for yall with the stocker, then the y pipe and swap with the headers when i get a chance to drop it in the shop. That would either make or break the headers. I purchased these for 320 shipped new so if it is a decent gain, it would document what part made what power.
01-26-2005, 07:43 PM
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Go with some sort of headers. I have the cattman headers and they sound terrific. Much much better then a Y-pipe sounds. But more importantly I put down 212 hp with the headers, MEVI, JWT ecu, and a few other mods. I definately have better midrange with the headers than the Y-pipe. It may be only a few more hp peak but the car feels more refined and the torque is great. I put 201 tq down with an MEVI. I am happy with the headers and will never go back to a Y-pipe. Save up and do it right the first time. I had a Y-pipe before the headers because they weren't available when I first got the max but I wish I had started with headers.
03-10-2005, 02:36 PM
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If you want headers you have to buy the headers from cattman and they come with the y-pipe. you can't buy a y-pipe and add headers later unless you want crap headers.
As for jdm71488, if you ever plan on buying headers than you are wasting your money if you buy a y-pipe first and then headers later. If you're new and you're going to buy an exhaust then save up for the headers and buy them. What sense does it make to buy a y-pipe for $200-$300 and then a couple years later spend $800 for the headers? Like I said if you don't have the money, then save up and then do it. Is it worth the money for 4-5 hp more? That's up to you to decide, but if you're going to do it, then do it right and buy the headers. I wish I would've. I will probably never buy headers now because I would be paying $800 for 4-5 hp increase.
On the other hand if you just want a cheaper exhaust upgrade then go with the y-pipe and forget headers exist.
As for jdm71488, if you ever plan on buying headers than you are wasting your money if you buy a y-pipe first and then headers later. If you're new and you're going to buy an exhaust then save up for the headers and buy them. What sense does it make to buy a y-pipe for $200-$300 and then a couple years later spend $800 for the headers? Like I said if you don't have the money, then save up and then do it. Is it worth the money for 4-5 hp more? That's up to you to decide, but if you're going to do it, then do it right and buy the headers. I wish I would've. I will probably never buy headers now because I would be paying $800 for 4-5 hp increase.
On the other hand if you just want a cheaper exhaust upgrade then go with the y-pipe and forget headers exist.
03-10-2005, 07:34 PM
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the other problem is if you absolutely don't pass emissions, with an aftermarket y pipe...atleast it's easy to swap in the stocker if you still have it...but if you get the headers and don't pass, it will be nearly impossible to swap it easily...
I think it's worth it however...and I would rather pay some dude $100 to pass me some illegal way...
I don't know if your chances of passing are less with an aftermarket y pipe over the headers...
I think it's worth it however...and I would rather pay some dude $100 to pass me some illegal way...
I don't know if your chances of passing are less with an aftermarket y pipe over the headers...