12.9 @ 106.9MPH ALL MOTOR 6th gen!!!
12-27-2010, 01:16 AM
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I believe his time is a legit 12.9@106.9. My point was that the conditions were more favorable than he let on in the initial post and/or that KCIR may be one of those "fast tracks." MIR has a reputation for being a fast track for example. A track that commonly has tailwinds, has a slight gradient, or consistent amazing prep would fit this list.
I'm probably wrong with the timing equipment comments. It's kind of doubtful that a track could improperly space or calibrate their equipment and not have it discovered.
krazy6 I know how you feel with BS being called on times... I had a thread around a year ago in these forums that had 5-6 pages of arguing about why my car shouldn't have run what it did and what mods I must have been hiding, as well as my friend's cobalt on the same track day... Good times. That said, I am not nor did I ever call BS on your times.
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12-27-2010, 08:56 AM
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Im just gonna drop this subject, cuz its not really going anywhere.
12-27-2010, 08:58 AM
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Ok ok... lets not go too far here. Legit6MT, I am not agreeing with you. I don't mean "friendly" as in fake or way out of line. Let me explain.
I believe his time is a legit 12.9@106.9. My point was that the conditions were more favorable than he let on in the initial post and/or that KCIR may be one of those "fast tracks." MIR has a reputation for being a fast track for example. A track that commonly has tailwinds, has a slight gradient, or consistent amazing prep would fit this list.
I'm probably wrong with the timing equipment comments. It's kind of doubtful that a track could improperly space or calibrate their equipment and not have it discovered.
krazy6 I know how you feel with BS being called on times... I had a thread around a year ago in these forums that had 5-6 pages of arguing about why my car shouldn't have run what it did and what mods I must have been hiding, as well as my friend's cobalt on the same track day... Good times. That said, I am not nor did I ever call BS on your times.
I believe his time is a legit 12.9@106.9. My point was that the conditions were more favorable than he let on in the initial post and/or that KCIR may be one of those "fast tracks." MIR has a reputation for being a fast track for example. A track that commonly has tailwinds, has a slight gradient, or consistent amazing prep would fit this list.
I'm probably wrong with the timing equipment comments. It's kind of doubtful that a track could improperly space or calibrate their equipment and not have it discovered.
krazy6 I know how you feel with BS being called on times... I had a thread around a year ago in these forums that had 5-6 pages of arguing about why my car shouldn't have run what it did and what mods I must have been hiding, as well as my friend's cobalt on the same track day... Good times. That said, I am not nor did I ever call BS on your times.
I guess every condition was in his favor for his 12.9 pass.
12-27-2010, 09:00 AM
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12-30-2010, 08:07 PM
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Now with the ceramic 6-puck, I'm afraid of breaking another transmission or axles when launching... I'd rather the clutch be the weak point again
12-30-2010, 10:14 PM
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aside from the shudder/chatter if i try to launch at too low a rpm or slip the clutch too much, very happy with the clutchmasters stage 4 6 puck. Amazingly grippy, probably dangerously so (for the trans) when power shifting or 6k launching on sticky tires.
12-31-2010, 01:13 PM
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The clutchmasters lightweight flywheel. Think it's around 11lbs, similar to the fidanza. It's basically one of the worst "street" setups you can run with both a lightweight flywheel and a ceramic puck clutch, but I love it at the track. Hate it in stop and go traffic, especially if it's uphill.
12-31-2010, 02:02 PM
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The clutchmasters lightweight flywheel. Think it's around 11lbs, similar to the fidanza. It's basically one of the worst "street" setups you can run with both a lightweight flywheel and a ceramic puck clutch, but I love it at the track. Hate it in stop and go traffic, especially if it's uphill.
Although, the question is, how much are you gonna spray now that your clutch can hold it?
I vote a minimum of a 150 shot.
12-31-2010, 02:10 PM
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edit: but if I do, I will be aiming for 100-125 shot for an 11 second time slip.
12-31-2010, 04:57 PM
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Honestly not sure if I will spray, not worth breaking anything on my daily. Want to see mid 12s NA and finish off other stuff (coilovers, sound setup) for this to be a fun and quick daily driver.
edit: but if I do, I will be aiming for 100-125 shot for an 11 second time slip.
edit: but if I do, I will be aiming for 100-125 shot for an 11 second time slip.
My car is my daily as well.
It'd be cool if you made some 11 second passes though.
12-31-2010, 11:00 PM
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At the same time, I'm also inclined to leave my nitrous record at 12.4 and 112 traps. A perfectly tuned and driven N/A 5.5 gen with the right boltons + cams and weight reduction may just be able to beat that... Beating my own I/H/E and 75 shot times NA would rock!
01-01-2011, 01:06 PM
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Oh it would be quite fun.
At the same time, I'm also inclined to leave my nitrous record at 12.4 and 112 traps. A perfectly tuned and driven N/A 5.5 gen with the right boltons + cams and weight reduction may just be able to beat that... Beating my own I/H/E and 75 shot times NA would rock!
At the same time, I'm also inclined to leave my nitrous record at 12.4 and 112 traps. A perfectly tuned and driven N/A 5.5 gen with the right boltons + cams and weight reduction may just be able to beat that... Beating my own I/H/E and 75 shot times NA would rock!
01-01-2011, 02:09 PM
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Maybe. I can see being able to remove about 200 lbs from the car without too much trouble, but going past that will start getting difficult. What all did you do for weight reduction?
01-01-2011, 10:26 PM
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Completely gutted interior except dash and driver seat
No bumper supports
No a/c
No windshield washer tank
No rear sway bar
Lightweight wheels
Lawnmower battery
That is the simple list, don't want to list everything because I would be here typing for awhile. lol
You should have seen the pile of maxima stuff I had in my room.
01-01-2011, 10:41 PM
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Too much...
Completely gutted interior except dash and driver seat
No bumper supports
No a/c
No windshield washer tank
No rear sway bar
Lightweight wheels
Lawnmower battery
That is the simple list, don't want to list everything because I would be here typing for awhile. lol
You should have seen the pile of maxima stuff I had in my room.
Completely gutted interior except dash and driver seat
No bumper supports
No a/c
No windshield washer tank
No rear sway bar
Lightweight wheels
Lawnmower battery
That is the simple list, don't want to list everything because I would be here typing for awhile. lol
You should have seen the pile of maxima stuff I had in my room.
Removing bumper supports seems a bit risky.. but I guess there is 40-50 lbs to save there.
A/C permanently removed? I would go crazy without it in my daily... hate getting sweaty on the way to school/work because it's 100 degrees out with no AC.
With all those measures in place, you should also remove the power steering belt while you're at the track. Easy 5-10WHP.
01-01-2011, 10:46 PM
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arent the bumper supports that fiber/plastic material?
thought about that for track but did not think they weighed enough for the hassle on a daily..
was wondering how easy it is to remove the power steering belt?
thought about that for track but did not think they weighed enough for the hassle on a daily..
was wondering how easy it is to remove the power steering belt?
01-01-2011, 10:47 PM
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01-02-2011, 12:20 AM
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When I think gutted interior, i'm thinking chiseling, burning, or grinding at sound deadening material for hours... Did you just remove the carpet, seats, and seat belt equipment?
I removed the sound deadening. Dry ice is where it's at for that. Freeze the material then use something flat to lift it up. Really easy to do.
Yes, removed the seats, carpet, and rear seat belts.
Removing bumper supports seems a bit risky.. but I guess there is 40-50 lbs to save there.
I'd say it was 20-30lbs. Pretty easy to remove.
A/C permanently removed? I would go crazy without it in my daily... hate getting sweaty on the way to school/work because it's 100 degrees out with no AC.
Yeah, permanently removed. I never used it.
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I removed the sound deadening. Dry ice is where it's at for that. Freeze the material then use something flat to lift it up. Really easy to do.
Yes, removed the seats, carpet, and rear seat belts.
Removing bumper supports seems a bit risky.. but I guess there is 40-50 lbs to save there.
I'd say it was 20-30lbs. Pretty easy to remove.
A/C permanently removed? I would go crazy without it in my daily... hate getting sweaty on the way to school/work because it's 100 degrees out with no AC.
Yeah, permanently removed. I never used it.
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If I didn't need to cut it, I wasn't going to.
What is the KS mod?
01-02-2011, 12:23 AM
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I'm much more inclined to believe he's just going to a very fast track. Either downhill, "friendly" timing equipment or a major tailwind. With that kind of so/so DA and so/so '60 foots, there was definitely something making his times a good deal faster than would be expected. If AJ was correct and the DA was around 0 and his '60 foots were in the 1/8s, I would not even have a second thought at his times.
You'll never hear of a factory car running freakish times at KCIR. It's always E-town, Cecil, Rockingham, and other east coast tracks that tend to spit out seriously fast numbers in the fall/winter. KCIR doesn't let us run unless it's 50 and sunny and thanks to the South to North direction of the strip, we're often time dealing with a head/crosswind. My 94 Z28 did consistent 13.8s@101mph at KCIR. It did 13.5s@103mph at Houston Raceway Park (a quick track) with no changes to the car and in much hotter weather.
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01-02-2011, 12:25 AM
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knock sensor, they are supposed to be real sensitive. jime passed along that info, basically, mount a spare in the fenderwell and hook it up at the track. (only to be done when tuned of course)
01-02-2011, 12:30 AM
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more and more I wish I would not have sold my utec.
01-02-2011, 08:03 AM
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KCIR is far from a quick track. I've been running there for years and it's always been frustrating at how much slower my cars have run compared to others with the same mods running at tracks on the east coast. He'd be much quicker running out at your track, which I assume is Rockingham.
You'll never hear of a factory car running freakish times at KCIR. It's always E-town, Cecil, Rockingham, and other east coast tracks that tend to spit out seriously fast numbers in the fall/winter. KCIR doesn't let us run unless it's 50 and sunny and thanks to the South to North direction of the strip, we're often time dealing with a head/crosswind. My 94 Z28 did consistent 13.8s@101mph at KCIR. It did 13.5s@103mph at Houston Raceway Park (a quick track) with no changes to the car and in much hotter weather.
You'll never hear of a factory car running freakish times at KCIR. It's always E-town, Cecil, Rockingham, and other east coast tracks that tend to spit out seriously fast numbers in the fall/winter. KCIR doesn't let us run unless it's 50 and sunny and thanks to the South to North direction of the strip, we're often time dealing with a head/crosswind. My 94 Z28 did consistent 13.8s@101mph at KCIR. It did 13.5s@103mph at Houston Raceway Park (a quick track) with no changes to the car and in much hotter weather.
I always run mine with the full exhaust and my car doesn't wheel hop at the track either, so I should be good.
01-02-2011, 03:29 PM
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I'm certainly not brave enough to run with spares for skinnies, but may eventually get some since they'll fit almost any vehicle I want for a drag car in the future for the same purpose.
01-02-2011, 03:40 PM
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I'm still gonna run the knock sensor. If it doesn't pick up any false knock, I shouldn't be losing any power.
When you have no money you have to do shady stuff. lol
My friend shipped up my skinnies from my other car back at home. I now have legit 15x4 wheels with legit tires.
My friend shipped up my skinnies from my other car back at home. I now have legit 15x4 wheels with legit tires.
01-02-2011, 06:22 PM
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I'm a little more stoked to hit the track again after looking back over some timeslips and comparing. I won't clutter your thread with the slips, but I may actually do some weight reduction while I'm at it to see how much I can squeeze out of it with the current setup before it goes under the knife for a few changes and real dyno tuning this spring.
I've been playing with some fun formulas to determine what will do me best for intake length and piping diameter and will be making some changes to my current setup to go along with a SSIM. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out in dyno comparisons.